Munger / Munster
In Previous Chapters we looked facts about Katir, Wai , Ashkun and Gour teribes. Herewith we shall discuss “ Muman or Madugal Kafir “ tribe . The Tribe connects Munster(Ireland and Germany) and Munger ( Bihar) . It connectes Dutt Mohyal and Déisi Muman of Munster (Ireland). In ancient India we had tradtion of Brahmin kings.The tradition followed in Munger (Ireland).
Ancient Histor of Munger
Ancient history of Munger (famously Monghyr) says that it formed pent of the Madhya-desa as “Midland” of the first Aryan settlers. It has been identified with Mod-Giri a place mentioned in the Mahabharata, which was the capital of a kingdom in Eastern India near Vanga and Tamralipta.
. In the Digvijaya Parva of Mahabharata, we find the mention of Moda-Giri, Which seems similar to Moda-Giri. Digvijaya Parva suggests that it was a monarchical state during early times. A passage in the Sabha-Parva describes Bhima’s conquest in Eastern India and says that after defeating Karna, king of Anga, he fought battle at Modagiri and killed its chief.
Buchanan says that it was the hermitage of Mudgala Muni and this tradition of Mudgal Risi still persists. Munger is called “Modagiri” in the Monghyr copperplate of Devapala.
Now let us see how That Modagiri – Munger – Kafir Madugal tirbe – Munster (Irelad) and Déisi Muman of Muster connected.
We shall begin with the description of the book – Kafirs of Hindukush. Author mentions that …
Muman or Madugal Kafirs
- “The next Siah-Posh tribe in general and numerical
importance, is the Muman or Madugal Kafirs, who
occupy that short tract of country between the Kam
and the Katirs of the Bashgul Valley. They are col-
lected into three villages, and possess also a few hamlets.”
The names of the villages are : —
Bagalgrom, or Muniiiu, Su ku , Mungul , (p-77)
Origin of Muman or Madugal
– “Of the origin of the Presun, the Madugal, the Kashtan,
&c., and of the slaves, there is even less information to be
collected locally ; but some of the traditions related to me
are of value for two reasons. They show the nature of
the evidence placed at the disposal of the traveller by the
Kafirs themselves, and they illustrate the crude, bald nar-
rative which suits the present intellectual position of the
people. For instance, the Madugal tribe, according to Kam
greybeards, was created in the following peculiar circum-
stances. One day long ago, the people of Kamdesh were
startled by the fall of a thunderbolt from heaven. A
great noise and much fire were associated with the
phenomenon, and added to the fear and bewilderment of
the spectators, x-^-fter a time, venturing forth from their
homes, the Kam perceived seven men, two of whom were
playing reed instruments to two others who were dancing.
The remaining three were busily employed in performing
sacred rites to Imra. From these seven individuals, who
took wives from the Katirs, the whole of the Miidiigdl
tribe is descended. ”(161)
“To reach Lutdeh from Kamdesh, that short portion of
tlieliashgul Valley iuhabitcd by the Madugal Kafirs has
to be traversed. This tribe had always been friendly
towards me, but their chief, Bahdur, was a man of
insatiable cupidity, and always looked on me as a barred
tiger just before feeding-time might gaze on a stalled
ox ; but the Kam were far too powerful and far too close
at hand for Bahdur to give me any trouble while I was
under their escort, and we were treated extremely well
by his people. (302)
- “Nevertheless, we started down the valley in high
spirits. We arranged that two of the upper village
headmen were to meet me at Bagalgrom (the chief
village of the Madugal Kafirs), and thence conduct me
up the Kamdesh hill. Shermalik hurried forward to
warn the people of our approach, while my party fol-
lowed slowly behind. ”(342)
Book link : Kafirs of Hindukush
The book “Origines Celticae (a Fragment) and Other Contributions to the History of Britain” By Edwin Guest mentions them as Mugdon ,Mygdones (p-25)
Now let us look at our land…
. Mohil (Mohyals / Mohi(l)/ Mahipal)
Mohyals are a class of Rajput who claim ancestry from Parasurama.
They were extinct in Tod’s time, though there are people nowadays
claiming to be Mohils. This race is divided into seven clans known
as Datt, Bali, Chhibber, Vaid, Mohan, Lau and Bhimwal. Any authentic
history of their origin is not available. However, mention about
them is made in historical records from the earliest times.
Origin of Mohyal Matches with Kafir story
The Ancient History of Mohyals says that the seven Mohyal clans of Saraswat Brahmins, written in languages of Hindi: Punjabi–Gurmukhi and Urdu are based upon the seven stars of Ursa Major constellation known as Sapt Rishi Mandal representing the seven great Rishis (Bramh Rishis)as mentioned in the ancient Hindu literature, and each clan thus represents one of the seven stars of the Sapt Rishi Mandal..
Second link for more facts
Some scholars have argued that the Bhumihar Brahmins of Eastern U.P. and in the state of Bihar, Mohyal Brahmins in the state of Punjab, Namboothiri Brahmins in Kerela, Havyak Brahmins of Karnataka, Anavil Brahmins of Gujarat, and Kumaoini rahmin of Uttarakhand share the same lineage and are similar to Chitpawans in custom, tradition, practices, temperament and hold Bhagvan Parshuram in high esteem. The records of Swami Sahajanand Saraswati in “Brahmarshi Vansha Vistar” and Acharya Chatursen Shastri in “Vayam Rakshamah” points towards the same origin, by taking help of all ancient texts as well as prevailing customary practices and temperament of these illustrious Brahmins.
Mohyal (alternate spellings include Muhiyal, Muhial, Mhial, Mohiyal or Mahjal) is the name of an endogaous ethnic group that originates from the Gandhara region and consists of seven Brahmin Lineages of that area that left the usual priestly occupation of Brahmins long ago to serve as soldiers and in government services.
The community is noted for a long tradition of producing distinguished soldiers. – including, among others, India’s most decorated General, Zorawar chad Bakshi
Despite their classification as Brahmins in the Hindu Varna system, they in fact strictly refrain from working as priests–often to the point of excommunicating those who break that tradition. They also do not adhere to many customs and taboos observed by other Brahmin groups, and their regional history and specific customs mark them as a distinct ethnic group as well.
Most Mohyals are Hindus. Many are Sikhs – largely as a result of the role played by Mohyals in the formative days of the Sikh religion and also because of a tradition once popular in Mohyal families of bringing up the eldest male child as a Sikh. A small percentage are Mulims.
Link to Mohiyal
Origin of Madugal Kafir and Mohyal matches. It suggest that Mohyal is a tribe who faught at gate way of India alongwith Suryavanshis and chandravanshis.
Now we know that Datt Mohyal is one of the clan of Mohiyal. That “ Datt “word is clue to history.
Link to Mohiyal tribe..real Brahmin fighters
Word Datt is clue…
The word Datt is derived from the HIndi word daata meaning a charitable person. Some interpreted it as a corruption of the word Aditya which means ‘sun’ in Sanskrit. Traditionally Mohyals of the Datt Clan have the last name ‘Datt’, whilst the name ‘Dutt’ is considered to be a closely related derivative of ‘Datt’.
“Déisi “ in Ireland
The Déisi were a class of peoples in ancient and medieval Ireland. The term is Old irish, and derives from the word déis, meaning “vassal” or “subject”; in its original sense, it designated groups who were vassals or rent-payers to a landowner. Later, it became a proper name for certain septs and their own subjects throughout Ireland. The various different peoples listed under the heading déis shared the same status in Gaelic Ireland, and had little or no actual kinship, though they were often conceived of genetically related. Déisi groups included the Déisi Muman (the Déisi of Munster), Déisi Temro (of Tara), Déisi Becc (located in the Kingdom of Mide) and the Deisi Tuisceart (the Northern Déisi; a sept of which would become famous as the Dal g Cais).
Link to Deisi
Declán or Datta ?
Declán mac Eircc (also Déclán or Declan), Declanus in Latin sources, was an early Irish saint of the Deisi Muman, who was remembered for having converted the Déisi in the late 5th century and for having founded the monastery of Ardmore (Ard Mór) in what is now Co. Waterford. The principal source for his life and cult is a Latin Life of the 12th century. Like Alibe of Emly, Ciaran of Saigir and Addan of Moyarney, Declán is presented as a Munster saint who preceded Saint Ptrick in bringing Christianity to Ireland. He was regarded as a patron saint of the Deisi of East Munster.
Link to Declan
The Deirgtine (Deirgthine, Dergtine, Dergthine) or Clanna Dergthened were the proto-historical ancestors of the historical Eoganachta dynasties of Muster. Their origins are unclear but they may have been of fairly recent Gaulish derivation. Some evidence exists for their having been active in Roman Britain
Legendary figures belonging to the Deirgtine include Mug Nuadat, Aillil,Aulom, Eogan Mor, and Fiachu Muillethan. Though literary claims were later made that these early figures were rulers of Munster, their descendants did not in fact gain political supremacy over the established Dairine or Corcu Loigde until the 7th century AD. Among the famous tales from which the Deirgtine are known is the Cath Maige Mucrama.
While kinship is not asserted, the Deirgtine are known to have had a close political relationship with the Deisi of Munster, who may have been their most important early facilitators. The names of several figures from the Deirgtine (Eóganachta) pedigrees are found in ogham inscriptions in the Déisi country of County waterford.
It is also the case that a number of figures, mythological and historical, later thought to belong to the Deirgtine and listed in the Eóganachta pedigrees did in fact belong to the Erainn (Iran?), but were adopted as ancestors. The earliest reliable ancestor of the Eóganachta and actual founder of the dynasties is Conall Corc.
Déisi Muman of Munster (Datt Mohyal?)
The Déisi Muman were a prominent enough power to form their own regional kingdom in Munster from a fairly early date. In a recent title, Paul MacCotter states “The regional kingdom of Déisi Muman must have existed in roughly its present location from a very early period. Ogams dating perhaps from the fifth century record unique first names associated with its kings.” According to Francis John Byrne, there are certain inscriptional hints that both the Ecoganchta and their Waterford Déisi vassals may have been of fairly recent Gaulish origins. The ancestors of the Eóganachta are known as the Deirgtine (Datt?) and they are also believed to have been active in Roman Britain, one piece of evidence being the name of their capital Cashel, thought to be inspired by the Roman castella they observed on raids. The Déisi Muman enjoyed a position in the later Eóganachta overkingdom suggesting of a special relationship. Byrne mentions it was noticed by Eoin MacNeill that a number of the early names in the Eóganachta pedigrees are found in Oghams in the Déisi country of Waterford, among them Nia Segamian (NETASEGAMONAS), after the Gaulish war god Segomo. According to MacNeill, the Waterford Déisi and the Eóganachta at Cashel “cannot well be disconnected”.
Link to Deisi Muman
Link to Munster
Munger : Ancient History
The territory included within the district of Munger (famously Monghyr) formed pent of the Madhya-desa as “Midland” of the first Aryan settlers. It has been identified with Mod-Giri a place mentioned in the Mahabharata, which was the capital of a kingdom in Eastern India near Vanga and Tamralipta. In the Digvijaya Parva of Mahabharata, we find the mention of Moda-Giri, Which seems similar to Moda-Giri. Digvijaya Parva suggests that it was a monarchical state during early times. A passage in the Sabha-Parva describes Bhima’s conquest in Eastern India and says that after defeating Karna, king of Anga, he fought battle at Modagiri and killed its chief. It was also known as Maudal after Maudgalya, a disciple of Buddha, who converted a rich merchant of this place into Buddhism. Buchanan says that it was the hermitage of Mudgala Muni and this tradition of Mudgal Risi still persists. Munger is called “Modagiri” in the Monghyr copperplate of Devapala. The derivation of the name Munger (Monghyr) has found the subject of much speculation. Tradition arcribes the foundation of the town to Chandragupta, after whom it was called Guptagars a name which has been found inscribed on a rock at Kastaharni Ghat at the north-western corner of the present fort. It is insisted that Mudgalrisi lived there. Tradition ascribes the composition of various suktar of the 10th Mavdala of the Rigveda to Rishi Mudgal and his clan. However, General Cunnigham had strong suspicicion when he connects this original name with Mons as Mundas, who occupied this part before the advent of the Aryans. Again Mr. C.E.A. oldham, ICS, a farmer collector suggests the possibility of Munigiha, ie , the abode of the Muni, without any specification which later corrupted to Mungir and later became Munger.
At the dawn of history, the present site of the town was apparently comprised within the Kingdom of Anga, with the capital Champa near Bhagalpur. According to Pargiter, Anga comprises the modern districts of Bhagalpur and Munger commissionary. The Anga dominion at one time included Magadha and the Shanti-Parva refers to an Anga king who sacrificed at Mount Vishnupada. In the epic period Modagiri finds mention as a separate state. The success of the Anga did not last long and about the middle of the sixth century B.C. Bimlisara of Magadha is said to have killed Brahmadatta, the last independent ruler of ancient Anga. Hence the Anga became an integral part of the growing empire of Magadh. As epigraphic evidence of the Gupta period suggests that Munger was under the Guptas. To the reign of Buddhagupta (447-495 A.D) belongs a copper plate of A.D. 488-9 originally found at Mandapura in the district.
Munger of Angdesh
Munger town is the headquarters of Munger Distict, in the Indian State of Bihar. Historically, Munger is known for its manufacturing of iron articles such as firearms and swords. One of the major institutions in Munger is Bihar Schoolof Yoga. It is one of the foremost learning center in the world for Yoga and frequented by people all over the globe. Munger is situated on the banks of the Ganges and known for its pleasant bathing ghats.
Link To Munger
Munster in Germany
Münster is an Inpendent City in North Rhine – WestPhalia, Germany. It is located in the northern part of the state and is considered to be the cultural centre of the Westpahalia region. It is also capital of the local government region Munsterland. The city is best known as the location of the Anabaptist Rebellion during the Protestand reformation, as the site of the signing of the Treaty of WestPhalia ending the Thirt years war in 1648, and as the bicycle capital of Germany.
Munster of Angevin Kingdom (Ireland)
Münster gained the status of a Großstadt (major city) with more than 100,000 inhabitants in 1915. Currently there are around 270,000 people living in the city, with about 48,500 students, only some of whom are recorded in the official population statistics as having their Primary residence in Münster.
Munster (Irish: an Mhumhain / Cúige Mumhan,) is one of the Provinces of Ireland situated in the south of Ireland. In Ancient Ireland, it was one of the fifths ruled by a “king of over-kings” Irish: rí ruirech. Following the Norn ivasion of Ireland, the ancient kingdoms were Shired into a number of Counties for administrative and judicial purposes. In later centuries, local government legislation has seen further sub-division of the historic counties. In modern times, clusters of counties have been attributed to certain provinces but these clusters have no Legal Status. The province itself, while enjoying common usage and forming a strong part of Local Identity, has no official function for local government purposes. Apart from County Clare, much of the area lies in the South constituency for elections to the European Parliament. Geographically, Munster covers a total area of 24,675 km2 (9,527 sq mi) and the most populated city is Cork.
Link to Muster
The name Munster is derived from the Gaelic God, Muman. The province of Munster was once divided into six regions: Tuadh Mhuman (north Munster), Des Mhuman (south Munster), Aur/Ur Mumhan (east Munster), Iar mumhan or IaMuman (west Munster), Ernaibh Muman (the Ernai tribe’s portion of Munster), and Deisi Muman (the Deisi tribe’s portion of Munster). Ultimately, these were all subsumed into the kingdoms of Thomond (North, Desmond (south), and Ormond (east), all of which were eventually subsumed by surrender and regrant as Earldoms in the Peerage of Ireland. The names exist only indirectly today, particularly in the case of Thomond. The three crowns represent these three kingdoms.
Link to God Muman
Yes they know history of Stone henges world over. They ever remained ally to Ram vanshi and Chandravanshis.
Mohyal (Brahmin )Kings of Muster
The following Book link says about Mohyal (Brahmin) kings of Ireland Munster
Kings, Chronologies, and Genealogies: Studies in the Political History of …
By David E. Thornton – chapter -5 syas the story of Muman Kings.
Bhumihar in Arbstan?
Then why not Madugal /Mohyal in Ireland?
Bhumihar or Babhan or Bhuin-har is a Hindu Brahmin community mainly found in the Indian states of Bihar ,Jharkhand ,Uttar Pradesh and Bundelknd region of Madhya Pradesh.
Bhumihars are classified in the Brahmin varna of Indian Caste Bhumihars are landowning Brahmins who came to own land in different periods of History through land grants by kings or during the rule of Brahmin kings.
According to M.A.Sharing some of the Bhumihars belong to the Saryuparreen Brahmin division of Kanyakubja Brahmin. In the 19th (held at Prayag) and 20th (held at Lucnow) national convention of Kanyakubja Brahmins by Kanyakubja Mahati Sabha, in 1926 and 1927 respectively, it reiterated Bhumihars to be Kanyakubja Brahmins and appealed for unity among Kanyakubja Brahmins whose different branches included Sanadhya, Pahadi, Jujhoutia, Saryupareen, Chattsgarhi, Bhumihar and different Bengali Brahmins.[ Bhumihars have been the traditional priests at Vishnupad Mandir in Gaya as Gayawar Pandas and in the adjoining districts like Hazarigh. The Kingdom of Kashi belonged to Bhumihar Brahmins and big zamindari like Bettiah Raj, Hathawa Raj and Teri Raj belonged to them. Bhumihars were well respected Brahmins in the courts of Dumraon Maharaj, Kng of Nepal and Raj Darbhanga. Some Mohyal Brahmins migrated eastward and are believed to constitute some sub-divisions of Bhumihars, some of whom are also descendants of Husseini Brahminss and mourn the death of Imam Hussan. There is also a significant migrant population of Bhumihars in Mauritius, Suriname, Trinidad and Tobago, Guyana and others.
Bhumihars are commonly called Babhans which is the Pali word for Brahmins. and is used to refer to Brahmins in Budhist sources. In recent times, Bhumihars have been in the forefront of casteist violence in some places of Bihar state.
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More facts to Bhumihar
Munster in Angevin Kingdom or in Ang kingdom ?
Once they named Angevin kingdom to Souhern Ireland.. Angevin ,Andecavi or Andegani tribe was rule of Angevin Kingdom . My previous article talk about this. Now Madugal kafir tribe who faught at gate way of India for 1000 years connects Munger and Munster. This are the people who know the history of stone henges world over. They were witnesses to the Pandava (Hatinapur) and Sunline rulers rulers world over.
I think you will read my previous article . It connects Angdesh of India(Araria) and Ireland.
Link to my previous article
Link to Brahmin king of Kabul
Bhumihar Bhrahmin of Bihar are right. They reached up to Arbastan and beyond that. In world history they are known as Milesian .Milesian reached Ireland from Egyt. Still they remember their therland Garhwal -Kumaon. Means World history begin with Garhwal -Kumaon and ends there.
Few link to Milesians
Link -2Miletian philosorher
PRESUNGULIS / PHOENICIANS / FINNICS /Garud tribe
Presungulis kafir group also mentioned in the book ” kafirrs of Hindukush.
some facts from the book.
A few nights later the same man, L. C. Merak, brought
three fresh Presungulis to show me their national dance.
15y contrast with these people the Kdm appeared en-
lightened — – almost civilised. The Presungulis were
dark-complexioned, of muscular build and fair stature,
and were obviously of an unusually primitive type.
Unlike those of their countrymen who came to see me
in the daytime, these men were very cheerful, and
looked pleased with themselves, and with the perform-
ance they gave for my entertainment. A musical
instrument was extemporised from a wooden ladle,
shaped like the model of a flat-bottomed boat, and
with a short straight handle projecting from the stern.
The performer simply banged on this with a piece of
wood to mark the time, while he sang the alternate
lines of a monotonous chant with one of the other men.
The same words appeared to be repeated over and over
again, without the slightest variation. (p-118)
In Presungul the
people at first protested against my being shown their
gods at all, and it was only after they had been assured
by my companions that I was a Kj’ifir like themselves
that they gave a somewhat reluctant consent. The Bash-
gul Kafirs had no objections of this kind ; indeed, they
seemed to take a peculiar pleasure in showing me their
little temples, and in inviting me to be present at their
The chief temple to Imra is at Presungul, at Kstigi-
grom, which is undoubtedly the most sacred village in
the whole of Kafiristan. The temple itself is an impos-
ing structure, elaborately ornamented. It is between
50 and 60 feet square, and about 20 feet high.(p-389
In Presunsul the idol-lionses are much more carved
and ornamented than in the Bashgul Valley, while the
god is often shown seated under a wedge-shaped roof,
and sometimes engaged in playing a musical instrument.
At Deogrom there is a Monitan (Moni place, i.e., shrine)
where the “prophet” is made of an extraordinary shape.
He is furnished with large circular eyes with a dot in the
middle ; he has cat-like moustaches, and appears to be hold-
ing his head in his hands, the face peering out between
the points of long horns, which, starting from below,
cross and recross each other till they reach the god’s chin.
Occasionally the shrine is placed on the top of a village
tower in Presungul, a plan I have seen in no other district.(p-396)
I think Baltistan was place of this tribe….First read the link to Baltistan of ancient India.
Link to Baltic contires.
Link to Baltica fact…Read carefully..they talk about Garud?
Link to Vironian tribe of Estonia
Link to Virumaa ( Vironisn is finnic word)
Link to Virilahti in Finland
Link to Finland..land of Phoenicians..Presun viron
Link to Phoenicians…Link to
Third replica is clue to Histry: Nilgiri hills
We find Mudugar tribes in Nilgiri mountain. They are perfact match to Mudugal. Because Katunaicken (Katirs of Hindukush) – Kurumbas tribes also dwell along them. That is the reason Vasco de Gama reached south at Calicut.
Link to Mudugar tribe of Nilgiri mountains