Chapter-2: Sons of Mannus : Irminones / Herminones / Suevi …..they ever use the term Indo – European…undoubtedly Indo stand for India …why we don’t believe ? because we worship shiva and Ram but forget Lav nandan and kartikeya (3)

Goddess Tara

If we read the ancient history of present day country “ Estonia” (Isht? – Ishtdevi?) . There was “Tharapita “ in the Estonia . There is Hill of Tara in Ireland too. Both places are clue to history.Taarapita or Taara is a God in Estonian mythology. The holy place was also well known to Vironian tribes in northern Estonia. Taara was known by the Tavastian tribe of Finland. An old cult place now known as Laurin Lähde (Lauri’s Fountain) in the county of Janakkala. Tavastians worshipped Taara there as late as the 18th century and the church had to close the place. Estonia’s second-biggest city Tartu was poetically called Taaralinn (“city of Taara”).(Capital and largest city) .


Tara hill in Ireland -clue to Sindhu and Hindu kush culture

In Indian form we says “Devi Tara”. It is very ancient vedic Godess. There was “Tarapith” in Vironian land Estonia , and there is hill of Tara in Ireland. Goddess Tara says us the story of High “Sanatan culture” prevailed in Europe.The story of Tara’s flight from Vironia to Saaremaa has been associated with a major meteor disaster that formed “Lake Kaali” in Saaremaa.
If look at Indian counterpart then there is Taratarini temple in present Orissa. Taratarini temple on bank of Rushikulya river. In Indian tradition Taratarini is called “Stan Khand”. It was Ishtdevi of Kaling rulers.Surprising Tarapith in Estonia (Ishtdevi?) and surruonding area is called Scandenevia (Stankhand?). Ya , Karelia rulers ruled there. So Hill of Tara in Ireland can not be clue to history of Great migration?
Triibe of Hindukush?
Yes Estonia is the country where Vironians dwells. In the Book
“The Kafirs of Hindukush”, we come across the tribe “Presun viron”. Robertson mentions that “Presun viron” tribe was very ancient tribe of Afghanistan. While Vronians of northern Estonia. were believer of “ Tara” . Is it merely coencidenc?

Now let us see what wickipedia says about Estonia And Tarapit. Estonia Officially the Republic of Estonia (Estonian: Eesti Vabariik), is a state in the Baltic Region of Northern Europe. It is bordered to the north by the Gulf of Finland, to the west by the Baltic Sea, to the south by Latvia (343 km), and to the east by the Russian Federation (338.6 km).In present day there is Baltistan in Pak occupied Kashmir ,and there is Baltic zine in Europe. There is Kashmir in Bharatvarsha and there is Caspian see zone in Europe.These are not clues to History? Clue to great migration?
“Tharapita,Tharapita or Taarapita or Taara is a god in Estonian mythology.The Chronicle of Henry of Livonia mentions Tharapita as the superior god of Oeselians (inhabitants of Saaremaa island), also well known to Vironian tribes in northern Estonia. Tharapita or Taarapita or Taara is a god in Estonian mythology.he chronicle, when the crusaders invaded Vironia in 1220, there was a beautiful wooded hill in Vironia, where locals believe Oeselian god Tharapita was born and from which he flew to Saaremaa.
The story of Taara’s flight from Vironia to Saaremaa has been associated with a major meteor disaster that formed Lake Kaali in Saaremaa. In fact Goddess “Tara” is a symbol and clue to ancient Aryan culture. Goddess Tara was also worshiped In Sindhu valley as well as in Hindukusha.

Britain tribe map

you can see Gangani,Cocani ,Brigantes and Parissi tribes

Some tribes of Britain and traditions also can provide clue to history. If we look at ancient tribes map of Britain then there are Gangani and Cocani tribes. Which are clear clue to Bharatvarsha. East and west Gangani dynasty ruled Orissa and south India. Now let us look at few more tribes and their traditions.

Link to My other article connects Tara hill( Ireland) with Trihari garh (Tihari)

Parissi tribe – Cernunnos (Horned God) and Gandaberunda(Mysure)

The Parissi were a Celtic tribe who in pre-Roman times controlled almost all of the area which is now known as the East Riding of Yorkshire. Under Roman administration, the capital of their civitas was Petuaria, which today is known as Brough.
A tribe of the same name inhabited the part of Gaul presently occupied by central Paris; the notion that the tribes are connected—however conjectural—has proven powerful, the two peoples sharing Arras cultural characteristics in addition to a nominative identity. On the island of Great Britain, the Parissi were bordered by the Brigantes in the rest of the Yorkshire area and just across the Humber were the Corieltauvi. Paris city named after this Parissi tribe. They were worshiper of Cernwn (Cernunnos, Cernenus, Karnonos). Cernenusis a Gaulish and Cymric god known from two inscriptions from France and one from Germany as well as many images across the Celtic world. He is the classic stag-horned god of Celtic mythos who survives in Welsh folklore as Cernwn.
Pasis tribe of Lakhimpur Kheri

Lakhimpur Kheri is a District of Uttar pradesh in the Lucknow Division. It is located in India. along the border with Nepal. The headquarters of the Lakhimpur Kheri District are situated in the city of Lakhimpur.

Traditions point to the inclusion of this tract in the realm of the Lunar race of Hastinapur, and several places are associated with episodes in the Mahabharta. The early history is, however entirely unknown. The northern part was held by Rajputs in the tenth century, and tradition relates that they dispossessed by the Pasis (A Hindu Cast)and other aboriginal tribes.
it was restored to Oudh ( Awadh) after the Anglo Nepalese War of 1814-16. On the annexation of Oudh in 1856 the west of the present area was formed in to a District called Muhamdi(Now Mohmmadi) and the cast into Mallanpur, which also included part of Sitapur.

Horned god Cernunnos or Sangrila? God of Parissi tribe

Horned god Cernunnos or Sangrila? form of Pashupatinath? Parissi stand for beleiver of Pashupati?

Horned God Cernenus is a clue to ancient God of Bharatvarsha – Sangrila or Pashupatinath?
The cern- component of the name is derived from the Brythonic corn- where it means ‘horn’, as the root does in modern French. Thus Cernunnos literally means ‘The Hornéd One’. However, it is uncertain how widespread the use of the exact name for this deity was; however iconography consistent with this deity have been found from Cisalpine Gaul (Italy) through Gaul to Denmark (the famous Gundestrup Cauldron) through to insular sources. The British representation of this deity may be a continental import as they occur in areas of Belgic influence such as the Cirencester (Corinium Dubunnorum) relief and the Meigle stone, Perthshire.

Pashupatinath statue

Pashupatinath - worshiped in Hindukush.

The image seems close to the description of Cernunnos on the Gundestrup cauldron implying the continuation of this deity’s mythos where we see the deity in his form as ‘lord of the wild beasts’.

Are the famous Gundestrup Cauldron and horned God Cernunnos is clue to Sindhu valley culture? Pashupatinath worshiped in Sindhu valley in that form. Further I want to remind you that our present search and research journey started with Afghanistan. If you read the book –“Kafirs of Hindukush” by Robertson then you will find description of religious Dance wearing Horned Mask. The Horned God tradition is clue to Sindhu culture. Is it not clue to great migration ?
If we believe this clue than Porus who faught against Alexander was King of Paurava 326 BC. Warhero Brennus, who lead army against Greece and Delphi(279 BC) also belonged to “Prausi” tribe.Indian litrature says that According to ancient history traced to Vedas, the Ravi River was known as Iravati (also spelt Airavati). Another Vedic name was Purushni. Part of the battle of the ten kings was fought on the Parushni River, which according to Yaska (Nirukta 9.26) refers to the Iravati River (Ravi River) in the punjab
One scholar, Buddha Prakash, Professor of History and of Ancient Indian History, Culture and Archaeology, Director of the Institute of Indic Studies (1964); in his book Political and Social Movement in Ancient Punjab states:
The Purus settled between the Asikni and the Parusni, whence they launched their onslaught on the Bharats, and after the initial rebuff in the Dasrajan war, , soon regrouped and resumed their march on the Yamuna and the Sarswati and subsequently merged with the Bharatas, Some of their off-shoots lingered on in the Punjab and one of their scions played a notable part in the events of the time at Alexander’s invitation. They probably survived in the Punjab under the name of Puri, which is a sub-caste of the Khatris.It is Said that Puru dynasty is generally understood to be that of the Pandavas. The Harikulas( Krishna and Balram) have been identified by some scholars as none other than the descendants of Yadu. Surprisingly Brennus belonged to “Prausi” tribe and he took leadership of ( 280 BC )a great army, comprising about 85,000 warriors, coming from Pannonia.

Link to Horned God

Gundestrup Cauldron is clue to Gandaberunda symbol of Mysure state? South Indian states were also carrying tradition of Sindhu culture. ( For further facts for Gandaberunda pl. look in the Mythological news section.

Now we know that Periyar rulers were in root of Ernakulam History. Those Priyar rulers are clue to Frissian or Phryginas who were named Frank latter on.

In Nennius the name Mannus (see Mannaz) and his three sons appear in corrupted form, the ancestor of the Irminones appearing as Armenon. His sons here are Gothus, Valagothus/Balagothus, Cibidus, Burgundus, and Longobardus, whence come the Goths (and Ostrogoths, Visigoths, Crimean Goths), Valagoths/Balagoths, Cibidi, Burgundians and Lombards/Langobards
Jormun, the Viking Age Norse form of the name Irmin, can be found in a number of places in the Poetic Edda as a by name for Odin. ”
Mythology says that Odin and his brothers used Ymir’s lifeless body to create the universe. They carried it to the center of Ginnungagap and there they ground his flesh into dirt. The maggots that appeared in his flesh became the dwarves that live under the earth. His bones became the mountains, his teeth rocks and pebbles. Odin strewed Ymir’s brains into the sky to create the clouds, and took sparks and embers from Muspelheim for the sun, moon and stars. The gods placed four dwarves—Norðri (North), Suðri (South), Austri (East), and Vestri (West)—to hold up Ymir’s skull and create the heavens.

“Ymir was the first to be conceived as drops of eitr joined together and formed a giant of rime frost (a hrimthurs) and sparks from Muspelheim brought him to life. While Ymir slept, the sweat under his arms became two more giants, one male and one female, and one of his legs mated with the other to create a third, a son Þrúðgelmir.”
These were the forebearers of the family of frost giants or jutuns. They were nursed by the cow giant Auðumbla who, like Ymir, was created from the melting ice in Ginnungagap. Auðumbla herself fed on a block of salty ice, and her licking sculpted it into the shape of a man who became Búri, the ancestor of the gods (Æsir) and the grandfather of Odin.
Analysis of different Indo-European tales indicate the Proto-Indo-Europeans believed there were two progenitors of mankind: Manu- (“Man”; Indic Manu; Germanic Mannus) and Yemo- (“Twin”), his twin brother.( Does it not match the history of founding of Ayodhya by Manu?) The latter, like Ymir, was sacrificed and carved up by his brother to produce mankind.”
Traces of this dualistic structure of (also) the Proto-Indo-European creation myth can be found in parallel mythological entities with the same etymology, like the Indic death deity Yama and Avestan Yima, progenitors of mankind; of Remus (according to Jaan Puhvel), the brother of Romulus in the story of the founding of Rome, and Ymir. The underlying Proto-Indo-European form is *yemo (“twin”). The corresponding Proto-Germanic form was either *umijaz or, in better accordance with this theory, *jumijaz.

Irminons community

Irminons community

Yama shares with Ymir the characteristics of being primordial and mortal, but otherwise developed towards a very different character, the first of mortal men and kings who after death becomes ruler of the realm of the dead.
Now let us check what our ancient history of India says.

What our history says ?

J.P.Mittal mentions in his book “History of Ancient India: From 7300 BC to 4250 BC “ that…..
“AGNI” The childhood friend of Manu,came to Ayodhya,form the distant west. He told Manu that that VAIVASWATA YAMA his (Manu’s) younger brother was alive after great flood. Agni told that Yama went towards the mountains towards west.On the seashore he found lot of dead bodies.The flood and then the epidemic ,which followed had taken the lives of all the residents of that place.He called it Mrutyulok.At the seashore Yama founded two colonies named Swarga and Narka.Yama ruled from there according to religious traditional note. Manu was happy to learn the well being of his younger brother Yama. (p -93)
Dharmaraj yama. God of death

statue of Dharmraj in Hidnu tradition

Yes, ancient history of Bharatvarsha (India) says that Yama, the younger brother of Manu ( Founder of Ayodhya) was rescued in flood and Yama went towards the west. On the seashore he found a lot of dead body . He called it Mrutyu lok . On the seashore Yama founded two colonies named Swarga and Narka .He ruled from there.

Means they are keep history of origin of creation.

Har and Hari

link to Hermiones mentions that….it included Suebi ,Hermunduri,Chatti and Cherusci tribes.

You read the link carefully……They never hide their origin and we never believe it. The term Indo – European undoubtedly stands for India and Europe. Then what they hide? nothing ? why we don’t believe it?

Link to Suebi....I read Shiva only.

Suebi has roots in Suiones only. then why we doubt? The term Bastarane and Chatti also says about Indo – european roots. Is not ? Do Cherusci is not reminder to Choryashi (84)?

Do these tribes do not connects Baltistan and Baltic sea ? Ya it is.

Link to Baltistan...little Tibet.

link to Baltic sea ..Baltic sea..Our scripture mentions that Shiva was Trilokpati…Then why not believe this facts?

Link to Hermundari…says that there was allinace between Hermundari and Sarmatians.Sarmatians who has origin in Saurashtra.

Link to Chatti… understand one has to go deeper in to Chatari tribes of India . Who stands below Chhatra….Chatarapati.

link to Cherusic tribes.

Link to Halstatt Culture.

Go deeper in to Aedui (Awadhi) and Helvetii.…who ever remained ally of Roman empire. and Know Lav vanshi and Valli Vanshi.

Link to my article will lead you to the realm of Halhal...Holy

Sweden stands for Sverige

Now if we look at geografical facts about Sweden , then we come accross Swarga and Narka colony there. “ Sverige ” is swedish pronuciation of sweden and there is Narke province in present sweden too.

pagan temple at uppsala-sweden.What uppsala suggest?

conclusion : Accont of ancient Indian history about Yama (younger brother of Manu) matches with present geography and culture of sweden. Irminones are Yum worshipers. Yama culture developed there.If we read “ The kafirs of Hindukush”, then there is the reference that kafirs were worshiper of “Imara” (Ymir). Kafirs were worshiper of God of war “ Gish “ too.
Now let us see what wickipedia says about sweden…
SWEDEN pronounced, Swedish: Sverige pronounced sværj ( listen)), officially the Kingdom of Sweden (Swedish: Konungariket Sverige (help•info)), is a Nordic country on the Scandinavian Peninsula in Northern Europe.
swedish name Sverige (a conjunction of the words Svea and Rike – the latter is still spelt with the letter g, “rige”, in modern Danish) literally means “Kingdom of the Swedes”, excluding the Geats in Götaland.Variations of the name Sweden are used in most languages, with the exception of Danish and Norwegian using Sverige, Icelandic Svíþjóð, and the more notable exception of some Finno-Ugric languages where Ruotsi (Finnish) and Rootsi (Estonian) are used, names commonly considered etymologically related to the English name for Russia, referring to the people, Rus’, originally from the coastal areas of Roslagen, Uppland.

Närke province

Närke (help•info) is a traditional Swedish province or landskap in middle Sweden. It borders Västergötland, Värmland, Västmanland, Södermanland and Östergötland. On Närke’s 4,100 km² surface area, 193,857 people live.

And tide of the time proceed further……………….

Dutch- Deutsch- Dewashch

If we go deeper in to the meaning of word sweden and Dutch,
we can come to the conclusion that the word have got its roots in Sanskrit word “ Dewashcha”. The logo of “ Dutch East india company “ also cepicted and conveys the same massage. There are a picture of “Sahiv and Parvati “ in the logo of the company. Shiva has Trishul in his hand. We can conclude through this facts that the Teutonic ( Tibetian ?) heroes

Duetch east india company

Swirge -Upssala does not suggest that it was Dewashch East india company?

Ingaevones, Iscaevones and Herminones is based on the names of three heroes of ancient Indian history 1. Agni. 2. IKSVAKU and 3.Yama.Yes I feel that “Teutonic has relation with ancient Tel river civilazitaion of Orissa.
Now let us see what wickipedia says about word Dutch….
If we refer etemology of some words -the ethnonym of the Swedes from a cognate of Old English Sweo-ðeod and Old Norse: Sui-þióð
Additionally, þiuda- appears in Angel-ðeod (“Anglo-Saxon people”) and Gut-þiuda (“Gothic people”). The adjective derived from this noun, *þiudiskaz, “popular”, was later used with reference to the language of the people in contrast to the Latin language (earliest recorded example 786). The word is continued in German Deutsch (meaning German), English “Dutch”, Dutch Duits and Diets (the latter referring to Dutch, the former meaning German), Italian tedesco (meaning German), and Swedish/Danish/Norwegian tysk (meaning German).

Ya they are Devashch people. Who holds tradition of “Hala hal”..Holy.

Link to Holand will tell you further history.

Hague is reminder to Hugally and Gangasagar only. Only keepers of Halahal tradition can come to “Nabh dwip” in form of “Deota”…Dutch.It is Para Huggallly……just link Param Kamboj.

And Then Ikshvakuvanshi – Iscaevones

Jacob Grimm in his book “Teutonic mythology” Volume 1 ,mentions that
1. Inguio. Iscio. Irmino. The threefold division ^of all the German! into Ingaevones, Iscaevones and Herminones^ is based on the names of three heroes, Ingo, Isco, Hermino, each of whom admits oi being fixed on yet surer authority. (p-345) We shall discus “Iscaevones” in the coming chapter.
Don’t think that migration by Germanic tribes in 500 B.c. was first occasion of Migration. After all Manu and Yama were brothers and after great flood they both brothers were in two different continents. Migration from both the ends occured freguently.

Chapter -2 ends here. chapter -3 will be posted shortly.

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